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Dédié à toutes mes consoeurs de la section "grivoiseries" et qui se reconnaîtront :p Pour vous, mesdemoiselles =D


Joseph et une demoiselle de la Cour, Elicia. Ce dessin illustre partiellement une scène sulfureuse de mon roman, dans laquelle Joseph nous démontre pour la énième fois qu'il est "le plus délicieux amant du royaume" :heart:

(la source de lumière n'est pas partout cohérente, je sais c'est délibéré)


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Joseph and a lady of the Court, Elicia. This picture partially depicts a very sensual scene from my novel, in which Joseph definitely proves he's "the most delicious lover of the kingdom" :heart:

(the light source isn't always the same I know, it's wanted)


- lineart and colors done with photoshop

Joseph and Elicia belong to me, do not use without permission
Ne pas utiliser sans autorisation
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:iconarchangegabrielle:
il est a baver <3
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:iconarchangegabrielle:
il est a baver <3
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:iconangelique73:
A beautiful scene! Fine work in style, color and line! :rose:
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:iconmaddalinamocanu:
MaddalinaMocanu May 31, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Hmmm... I've always felt that sexuality in novels are regarded too lightly. I mean view it like this:
How would you see your character as a wanton?

For my part if I were to make my main characters rakes - that is my twins, not Elril, he's married so he's excused, I would personally change the course of the action to have them die. Wantons in my oppinion are not good main characters.
Instance, see "The Emerald Knights" by another French authoress... ah the name slips from my mind... Her main character Wellan gives himself willingly into the charms of a fairy queen, who is later killes only to be braught back again to "haunt" him as a ghost which which he makes love endlessly. In the first book at least there are accounts of his love affairs and ON top of that he seduces his apprentice squire Bridgess or Brigette in english, who is a, so to say, a Bella of the novel, not considering, "Oh the man I love is cheating me which a ghost. Perhaps I should fall into his arms so likely." Yet she does.
Here's the thing I despise in modern fantasy novels. The focus on the action overshadows the love and what love ultimately means in the souls and minds of the main characters, leading the author to create meaningless relationships that do nothing but put a bad tag on the characters, and I am refering only to the main ones.

Is joseph like that? A wanton with no stable love interest?
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:iconoceanlord:
"wanton", you taught me a new word in english, thanks ! =D

There are different visions of love in my lovel, for I consider Love has various "faces". But regarding love as a romantic feeling, there are several points of view. Some of my characters are very very attached to an ideal of true love with the heart being put above anything else, and some others just pay attention to the pleasures of life.

Regarding Joseph, well he loves freedom, and sees any "serious" love relationships as a prison, something "not for him". He's in love with all the women, and none at the same time, but heven though he's a womanizer, he really wants to be a gentleman with them (chivalry principles)
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MaddalinaMocanu May 31, 2011  Student Digital Artist
well chivalry principles in the middle age weren't based on being a gentleman... they were based on being honorable. You can be a gentleman and a wanton at the same time, like my Gondahir is: [link]
But you cannot be chival-ric and womanizer at the same time. That's a thing I've been taught by my sister from Anglo-saxon Hystory.
Considering that you've made him love all women, yet not at the same time I would consider he has a mild case of freelove :icongrin--plz:
In fact a serious relationship is a prison when you 1. consider it from a narrow point of view - as regarding it as only the one oman with which he shares passion and love and 2. refuse to know the woman more clearly. Now that's not a problem they have, it's a problem he has, because he's irresponsable. He cannot take responsability and devotion seriously so that's why he skips from a woman to another.
That's just me viewing it from a psychological point of view. Joseph seems to me an immature character that refuses to take loyalty as a virtue.
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:iconoceanlord:
It depends on what kind of History you're based on, what period, what culture and what "heritage". Chivalery relates to principles of honorability and loyalty, but their interpretation and applications depend on the local traditions. The story takes place far from Anglo-Saxon lands so it is not a reference for me :)
In his homeland, loyalty is due towards the kingdom before all

Joseph is devoted and loyal to his brother, to his country, but this is a chimera to imagine that a powerful, young, wealthy man will tie himself to one woman only, just for the sake of the "beautiful love". Loyalty can be found in different kind of relationships. This may be very romantic anf fits our ideals, but it's not fully realistic, especially not in their culture, in their era.
Besides, I am sorry but I will not take your judgments in account, since you know nothing about this character and the culture he evolves in ^^

But it was an interresting discussion anyway (even if it was based on an oooold picture, lol)
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MaddalinaMocanu May 31, 2011  Student Digital Artist
If it's in a fantasy world and era, why try to make it realistic? Isn't a reverie novel based upon dreams and ideals on not reality. It kinna boggles me that you take the discussion into the realistic as opposed to the reverie...
Quite frankly I am a person which doesn't see love in the way a human would. Especially when you try to analyze it apart from the bodily. And in a reverie novel, a fantasy novel the element of dream and idealism must surpass the realm of the worldly for it to have a true sense of fantasy.
I am not trying to stir a fight, but I believe that if a fantasy novel is to have grounds it should have a divinity which is a part of its world and not distant from it. Dissociating divinity and ultimately love as agape from the novel ultimately puts it in the realm of the commons.
The strive of any fantasy novel is to make their story heard, but don't get me wrong, it can be heard but not as you want it to be. For instance I have looked through the illustrations that you have made for the novel, especially the coupled ones and I have made an image of Joseph as I've said earlier. Providing constant flashbacks upon his possessions and numerous loves grants, at least in my eyes, a sight of him that I cannot shrug off lightly because you emphasize on it.
In my opinion the more you emphasize the character in a stance the more he/she will be viewed as seen in that stance.
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:iconoceanlord:
I stick to reality because the novel is set on a realistic background :). It's alternative Europe, but it's still Europe and I must respect the local traditions of the countries I'm inspired of, even though I recreate my own world
It's obvious you get an image from the illustrations, because this is what I want to show (or not). I don't hide the fact I love erotic pictures and this character IS very erotic in himself, I don't blame you for this. But I'm just telling you that I know my character and the reasons why he likes women =D
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MaddalinaMocanu Jun 1, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Ok understandable :icongrin--plz:
Hey would you like to take a peek in my sketch account here :iconmadda01: and I want to see what do you think about my Tolkienish world :D Also The digital illustrations from my Digicount :D this one and I'd like to see your thoughts :)
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